amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "threnoougo-20"; Silky dogwood has simple, opposite leaves that turn a brownish-red color in the fall. The fruits are about the size of a strawberry but round. The fruit from the Silky Dogwood (Cornus amomum) is not considered toxic to any species (dogs, people, livestock, birds, etc). At this stage they are sweet, plump, and juicy. Silky dogwood (Cornus amomum) is a medium-sized, native in the dogwood family (Cornaceae), and its blue berries are savored by many songbirds.More than 45 types of songbirds and game birds have been documented consuming the fatty berries in the fall. At certain stages of development, a couple plants in particular appear the closest of all to Elderberry: the Silky Dogwood (cornus amomum) and the Redosier (Red Osier) Dogwood (cornus sericea). What about blue elderberry? What is Elderflower? Found growing in the wildlife habitat created on the grounds of the local middle school. The only other solution I have is to remove the tree, which there are two of but the one is my favorite part of my yard. So, in simplist terms, is the difference in the leaves? Silky Dogwood has pretty big showy white clustered flowers in early summer (June and sometimes early July). Mature height generally ranges from 6 to 12 feet. No other sites, I’ve read have referenced dog woods. Silky dogwood has simple, opposite leaves that turn a brownish-red color in the fall. Do remember–if you are not sure what a plant is, first work hard to figure it out (because maybe you’ll learn something new). Silk Dogwood is also known as Silky Cornel and Swamp Dogwood. Elderberries are ripening this time of year where we live, so if you have any interest in harvesting these berries, it is as good a time as ever to nail down your elderberry identification skills. It does become more difficult to ID without leaves on the plant, but a few pictures of the overall plant, the bark, the berries, and the stems would help. One thing a very experienced backyard birder taught me is that there are "Broccoli" berries and "Candy" berries. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Many berries are commonly available in grocery stores, but other, equally delicious ones are abundant in the wild. I was given and elderberry and I assumed it grew like a big bush or tree and I was told it did but I didn’t know it had runners. Berries: The berries aren’t very tasty, and wildlife tend to leave them alone in the fall. So I’m gonna go see if it’s an elederberry. About the size of cherries, the fruit starts out yellow and turns a rosy red color when ripe. Silky Dogwood and Redosier Dogwood leaves are simple. Read on for additional silky dogwood information. Thus, if you see ripe elderberries side by side with a dogwood, you should see that the dogwood fruits are still green. Having done some research, because I’d really prefer avoiding Water Hemlock, I did learn some helpful ID information, not discluding this post. Pay attention to the overall habit of the plant–the location, the time, duration, and color of the flowers (if any), whether it is woody or herbaceous, the pattern and color of the bark, a general sampling of the leaves–opposite, alternate, whorled–from many parts of the plant, the shape, margins, and vein structure of the leaves, the characteristics of the fruit, etc. © 2017. If you are just seeing a handful of berries now, I would guess that they are not elderberries at this point as elderberries have likely long since ripened and disappeared from the plant by now. I always said it tastes like a cross between a mango and pumpkin. Note first the density and size of the cymes in both dogwoods as compared to the elderberry. This page gave me a 99% confidence level. They have red bark, and grey older bark, still having red streaks. Flowers eventually in September become small blue berries, still in clusters. The bark and the fruits. And finally, just for contrast, Black Elderberry: So, to recap, pay close attention to these distinguishing features: I hope at least some of this information is helpful. Branches that dig back into the ground can grow roots, and become a new tree. I thought it would be interesting to have a fruit with fat in the pulp, like an avocado. Thank you. I have started my first nature journal and was unsure as to what type of plant and berries I had so I could label it correctly. Click to see full answer. Your email address will not be published. The fruit is eaten by game birds, and is especially important as a source of food for migrating songbirds. If you can’t figure it out with reasonable confidence, then don’t eat it for now–you’ll probably get another opportunity in the future! The entire flower/fruit stalk falls off. Benefits of Elderflower & 25 Recipes! Could I send you an image somehow? A dragonfly lands on a kousa dogwood bud. Last fall I spotted Elderberry and I’ve been following the plant all year. Individual flowers are very tiny. The leaves of elderberries should still be compound and toothed, while the leaves of dogwood should be simple and smooth edged. When in doubt, we recommend watching a plant for an entire season to observe its development. Morthia from Hypothetical Hurricanes Wiki, https://delcores.fandom.com/wiki/Silky_Dogwood?oldid=1615. amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; The taste is very good and unique for a temperate climate fruit. Hi Val- sorry for the delay! The primary edible part of the Kousa Dogwood is its red berries which are usually produced in abundance in late summer. Many species have edible fruit, though not all actually taste good. Herb: Silky Dogwood Latin name: Cornus amomum Synonyms: Cornus coerulea, Swida amomum Family: Cornaceae (Dogwood Family) Medicinal use of Silky Dogwood: The dried root-bark is antiperiodic, astringent, stimulant (mild), tonic. I acquired this based on the description in the Oikos catalog. In some species they appear in cone-like clusters but in others, as in the silky dogwood pictured, in flat umbels. Notes: A dogwood with gorgeous blue berries. The primary edible part of the Kousa Dogwood is its red berries which are usually produced in abundance in late summer. That’s another reason I look up to see what is good and which is bad. In the home landscape, silky dogwood bushes work well in moist, naturalized areas and do a good job at stabilizing the soil in erosion-prone sites. I’ve followed the stem down and it does appear to be bark-like with no nubs. All content is the property of They're Not Our Goats. You explained it so well and with the pictures to go with it help so much. Blue berries, still in cluster, maturing in September. I had heard you have to be careful because you might think it’s elderberries and it’s not. It says "Fruit has high amounts of calcium –excellent for good skeletal growth in wildlife and high amounts of fat energy." Pingback: What is Elderflower? The following is a “guest” post from my hubby- the guy who really knows his plants around here. Certainly! Forest grown trees are less likely to grow like this, and grow more like a regular dogwood. The dogwoods’ cymes are smaller and less dense than the elderberry’s  (obviously the presence of berries or drupes will depend on fertilization), but the dogwoods’ drupes are larger than elderberries. On a day like today, in mid-May this exceptionally warm spring of 2012, I can pick a gallon of the berries in about an hour. Here’s a close-up of its lovely flower cyme (that’s the name of that cluster pattern): For comparison, here is the Black Elderberry bloom: Certainly these flower clusters look similar. You have already seen this, the candy berries are the ones that taste good as soon as they're ripe, such as serviceberries, twinberries, Red-flowering Currant, Mahonia, Salal, huckleberries, red and blue elderberries and even Mountain Ash, Red-twig Dogwood and Pacific Yew. Silky dogwood (Cornus amomum) is a medium-sized, native in the dogwood family (Cornaceae), and its blue berries are savored by many songbirds. So mine is still in the pot and I’m trying to figure out what I should do. amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; amzn_assoc_region = "US"; Pingback: How to Grow a Jelly Garden | Tenth Acre Farm. Your email address will not be published. After a quick search, it seems that the warmest coastal RI zone you could be in is 7b. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. He describes the fruits as "oval, cherry-like, and fire-engine red with a single stone inside," and likens their taste to that of sour cherries. At any rate, would it be overly assumptive to ask if I might ? At least where we live, elderberries ripen to a rich deep purple well before the silky or redosier fruits ripen. Delcore's Wiki is a FANDOM Lifestyle Community. Some trees may also bloom again in September. I’ll be on the lookout! Black Elderberry (sambucus nigra) shrubs are pretty distinctive, but if you are not paying close attention to what you are seeing, mistaking other plants for them is not impossible. Season: Late Summer & Early Fall Urban, Rural or Both: Both Yew Berries (Taxus baccata), Taxus.The red flesh of the ripe berries is safe and sweet tasting, though without any great flavor, but the seed in the center of the red berry is deadly poisonous, and the rest of the tree is deadly poisonous. Berries are technically edible, but don't taste very good. Now I have a plant growing along the property line that made flowers and all and Grows like a huge bush. Hello & welcome, I am Dr. B, a licensed veterinarian and I would like to help you today. Study the following images to note the differences between the Elderberry leaf on the left and the Redosier Dogwood leaves on the right: Observe also the following drawings of the Dogwoods and Elderberry courtesy of the USDA Plant Profiles. Kousa Dogwood can be identified by 2 primary factors. No one else I know forages. I've seen people eat dogwood berries before - never a large quantity - and none have experienced any problems. Oh I so enjoyed the read. Dogwood Fruit: Top 10 Health Benefits (Kousa Berries) A small tree native to Korea and other parts of Asia, the dogwood is popular as an ornamental tree to most. The berries fall off in fall when leaves do. I know that elderberry grows in the wild in our area (coastal RI) but I’m a true novice at plant id. Silky dogwood often has about half its canopy of flowers, so still not like the flowering dogwood. The flowers are said to have similar properties. The best way for me to tell would be if you sent along a few pictures to theyrenotourgoats@gmail.com. Silky Dogwood Berries. Here are 10 tasty wild berries to try — and 8 poisonous ones to avoid. Kousa Dogwood berries, botanically classified as Cornus kousa, grow on small, deciduous trees or shrubs belonging to the Cornaceae family. But that is not the only similarity they share (I’ll get to the differences in a moment). Almost all transplants work well. The taste is very good and unique for a temperate climate fruit. Certainly, you can send a couple of pictures to theyrenotourgoats at gmail dot com. We recently thought we spotted elderberries at a friend’s house- but Tim’s discerning eye second guessed our initial identification. My greatest challenge is that I’m just now seeing what may or may not be elderberries (just a handful) and there are no leaves for comparison. Propagation of this species is the easiest of any of the dogwoods. However, there is a slight possibility that there could be a few desiccated berries clinging on at this point. They also litter -- a lot. To herbalists, however, it is distinguished for its bright and edible dogwood fruit, commonly referred to as Kousa berries, cornus fruit and asiatic cornelian cherry. I would start by checking other features besides the berries. Elderberry leaf margins are toothed. Thank you! I always said it tastes like a cross between a mango and pumpkin. The most conspicuous distinguishing features between these Dogwoods and the Elderberry, however, are in the leaves and the fruits. It’s so pretty ask year round and I can see it from almost every room in my house. Hello there, We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. amzn_assoc_default_search_phrase = "elderberries"; Also known a swamp dogwood, silky dogwood is a mid-size shrub that grows wild along streams, ponds and other wetlands across much of the eastern half of the United States. amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; We were out there with my phone checking that plant to see how the leave look. Those two plants are markedly different from Elderberry in fairly obvious ways–I won’t go into them in detail now, but suffice it to say, when identifying a plant, don’t hinge your identification on only one feature (e.g. I am not sure if I have elderberry in my backyard, or if it is something else? Berries are technically edible, but don't taste very good. Pingback: 17 Elderflower Recipes for a Summertime Treat | Homestead Honey. Do you know what USDA hardiness zone you are in? Bark is smooth. For our purposes, though, that is not very important; we are trying to distinguish the Dogwoods from Elderberry, not so much from each other. Photos may not be used without permission. Birds lack a strong sense of taste, so they don’t seem to mind the dogwood berries. So your article help. Flowers eventually in September become small blue berries, still in clusters. The taste can vary from tree to tree, so it is advisable to try a few before you strip the tree of its berries! Wold you please look at a few photos to help me identify this tree because I want to be fairly positive is an elder tree before I consider removing it. The fruits are about the size of a strawberry but round. Once I learned about hemlock, Queen Anne’s lace there is no comparison. The silky dogwood, or Cornus amomum, is an ornamental shrub featuring flat white flowers that are unlike the showy blooms of the flowering dogwood.This deciduous plant grows in the United States as far south as Florida and up to Michigan, with specimens also found in Wisconsin, Tennessee, and Ohio. But he quickly adds that … We’ve been away from the blog for a bit. Also be aware of the color of the fruit (this is one of the best ways to discern whether you’re dealing with a silky or redosier, too). Not all of the 45 species of dogwood trees (Cornus spp.) . This dogwood is often found in swampy areas. amzn_assoc_search_bar = "true"; They both tend to grow in wet locations–though both are very tolerant plants–so you may even find them growing together (as we did recently). I belong to a plant ID group already, but they’re pretty persnickety and don’t seem very warm to newbies like myself. 18 thoughts on “ Distinguishing Elderberry from Silky and Redosier Dogwood ” Pingback: How to Grow a Jelly Garden | Tenth Acre Farm Danielle November 28, 2016 at 6:44 pm. Flowers may or may not feature large bracts like those of the flowering dogwood (Cornus florida). It takes probably up to 50 flowers to make up the compound flower we see. Where the berries appear it is reddish, which visually seems to be consistent though I haven’t see this mentioned? Though there are conflicting reports as to the toxicity of the berries in regards to human consumption, they taste rather rancid and fleshy. The kousa dogwood berries are unique in size and shape. I also had planted a cutting from a big bush from my neighbors. Required fields are marked *. If you take the time to google “elderberry look-alikes,” your search results will likely include references to Water Hemlock and Pokeberry–the former deathly poisonous and the latter arguably poisonous if used improperly. Dogwood berries can be bright red, white, dark blue, or even a combination of dark blue and white, as with the silky dogwood. In USDA zones 5 through 8, kousa dogwood (Cornus kousa) bears showy, pinkish-red fruits that resemble raspberries. Make sure to use rooting hormone, it helps cuttings grow roots to continue to grow. The stem of Silky Dogwood has these markings on it, which are absent from Red Osier Dogwood (Cornus stolonifera) bark. The berries have a distinctive bumpy skin. but I’m new to this and your article help me and my husband a lot. The Craft of Herbal Fermentation: A Course Re... How to Identify & Forage for Stinging Nettle, Strawberry-Honey Preserves (No Pectin or White Sugar), How to Grow a Jelly Garden | Tenth Acre Farm, 17 Elderflower Recipes for a Summertime Treat | Homestead Honey. The dogwood leaves are smooth. I received your email and I’m about to reply to it! Thanks for asking your question! Hi Rahel! May I send a couple pictures. Trees with Berries That Stain the Pavement. Look at the Silky Dogwood for example: Clearly there are differences between them, but at least we are dealing with similar types of plants. Your post was perfect – I now know that I have a Redosier Dogwood. Large bushy dogwood tree. Benefits of Elderflower & 25 Recipes! Flowers are fragrant. amzn_assoc_title = "Shop Related Products"; This is very very helpful! Also, you can compare the size of the berries and the shape of the cymes. amzn_assoc_default_category = "All"; Our common red-osier dogwood or kinnikinnick, best known for its bright red stems, bears whitish or bluish berries that Thoreau described as "part of the pendant jewelry of the season." Should I plant in the back or along the woods etc. Leaves turn red or purple before dropping in October. The thing is, we are experiencing a terrible infestation of box elder bugs that are living in the wood siding of my house and I cannot keep up with removing them and I refuse to poison then as it wouldn’t be safe for my kids,cats or chickens. Although the taste doesn't rival that of its lookalike, the berries are edible. berries, drupes or flowers growing in cyme patterns). I just transplanted three baby trees of this species from my neighbor's sidewalk to a planter to grow inside this year. Thank you so much! Silky dogwood often has about half its canopy of flowers, so still not like the flowering dogwood. The fruit ripens gradually, over a period of weeks, so this will be a graduated harvest. Silky dogwood is a large to medium-sized native shrub with creamy white spring flowers, dark green foliage, and reddish stems and burgundy fall color. I started foraging 3 years ago. Thank you! Absolutely a fantastic read. Send them along to theyrenotourgoats at gmail dot com and we’d be happy to take a look. If you observe carefully and thoroughly, and especially if you begin to learn the vocabulary of kingdom Plantae and attach deeper meaning to your sensory experience of these objects, you will gradually become more accurate in plant identification. Aside from the risk-factor of mistaking those plants for Elderberry (which has its own share of toxicity-risks), there is almost no reason to fear mistaking Water Hemlock or Pokeberry for Elderberry. Distinguishing Elderberry from Silky and Redosier Dogwood. The flowers mature to berry-like drupes that begin white but slowly transform to a lovely blue for the fall. amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "search"; Both cuttings survived. More than 45 types of songbirds and game birds have been documented consuming the fatty berries in the fall. Dogwood berries are in toxicity class III category, meaning, they are slightly toxic for dogs and cats. Observe the following photo; Redosier in the foreground, Elderberry in the background (just a few of the elderberries are starting to turn purple): Finally, a note about the color of the dogwood fruit: Redosier fruit turns whitish when ripe while Silky Dogwood’s is blueish. You can also check with the local state extension office in your area! Thanks! And finally, Black Elderberry (sambucus nigra): Let’s turn to the berries and drupes. Berries are at their best when they ripen to a dark, purple-blue. In USDA zones 5 through 8, kousa dogwood (Cornus kousa) bears showy, pinkish-red fruits that resemble raspberries. Or even if you know a good plant ID FB group to direct me to? Although the taste doesn't rival that of its lookalike, the berries are edible. The main thing that makes these Dogwoods more likely candidates for elderberry confusion than other look-alikes like Pokeberry and Water Hemlock is the fact that they too are shrubs of very similar proportions (from 6-10′ high) to elderberry. Read on to find out how to distinguish these two look-alike plants from each other. be able to email you a picture to peek at with your more knowledgeable eyes? If dogwood berries were highly toxic or poisonous to humans or pets I would have heard something about it over my 30 years experience in the field. Also known as Japanese dogwood, Chinese dogwood, and Korean dogwood, Kousa Dogwood is native to multiple regions in Asia and has become a highly popular ornamental tree in the United States. Having said that, let’s return to the Silky Dogwood. Trees provide shade, fruits and oxygen, and they add visual interest to the landscape and attract birds and other animals. You can identify a dogwood by looking for smooth-edged leaves with veins that curve parallel to the margins (edges). To complicate the trouble of precisely identifying Redosier Dogwood in contrast to the Silky Dogwood, Redosier is a variable species, which essentially means that its morphology is not always the same–different specimens can look different from each other. It is worth noting though that the subgenus of this plant species (Swida amomum) has been noted to be mildly toxic and cause stomach It tolerates wet swampy ground and less wet conditions too. amzn_assoc_search_bar_position = "bottom"; Thank you SO much! See the following images. Trees are native, but can still sometimes grow in weedy, but are not invasive. Red berries are certainly edible, but they are not fully ripe. Thanks :)). I ate a berry or two once and it was kind of grainy and not very tasty. I’m so glad it was helpful! Silky dogwood (Cornus amomum) is named for the silky gray hairs that cover the undersid… The berries appear in late summer. If you have any inquiries please contact us at theyrenotourgoats at gmail dot com. Elderberry leaves are compound. This bush has a big rounded crown, and branches tend to arch back to the ground in open grown trees. Elderberry has the ratchet ridges in the leaves and the dogwood has smooth sided leaves? After pollination, they produce a type of fruit known as a drupe. Other dogwoods have clusters of small, creamy-white flowers. Excerpts may be used with credit and a clickable link back to the source. I know that elderberry grows in the wild in our area (coastal RI) but I’m a true novice at plant id. Pingback: Elderberry Identification and Foraging Tips | HealthyGreenSavvy. As kousa dogwood gets older the lower bark peels and creates a unique pattern similar to sycamore tree bark. They have pits, along with a non all that sweet taste. Progressing each year. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! They look almost identical to silky dogwood when the fruits ripen? A great 4-season plant for naturalizing, in mass, and in shrub borders, especially in moist sites. Elderberry Identification and Foraging Tips | HealthyGreenSavvy. As these berries have a slightly sour taste, their consumption can cause irritation in the gastrointestinal tract. Your pet is likely to vomit or suffer from diarrhea due to this GI irritation. The two groundcover species have flowers that are rather inconspicuous but appear magnificent framed by the surrounding large, petal-like bracts. Tree With Dogwoodlike Blooms That Produce Berries in Fall. Your Silky Dogwood has attractive greenish-white flower clusters that appear in flat-topped, 2.5-inch clusters in the spring. They have pits, along with a non all that sweet taste.

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